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Reversing Climate Change

Focused on people & organizations coming together to reverse climate change

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60% of the calories in our food supply are alleged to be ultra-processed junk. So, when did we lose our way? When did we go from growing food to feed our communities to growing food for profit? And how do we find our way back to a just food system—and society? *Mark Bittman* is a former *New York Times* columnist and bestselling author of 30-plus books, including the well-known *How to Cook Everything * *series*. His new release is called *Animal, Vegetable, Junk: A History of Food, from Sustainable to Suicidal*. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Mark joins Ross and Radkhika to explain how the food system shaped our history and vice versa, describing how the Enclosure Movement may have turned food into a profit-making political tool and created the health crisis we’re facing. He weighs in on why educating kids about good food is the first step in creating a just food system and advocates for subsidies to support getting good food to more people. Listen in for Mark’s perspective on investing federal dollars in regenerative agriculture and learn how he thinks about making the phrase ‘land reform’ common in our political discourse. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori’s book club on Patreon* *Nori’s website* *Nori on Twitter* *Sign up for Nori’s weekly Newsletter, **The Nori Wrap* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Mark’s Website* *Subscribe to The Bittman Project Newsletter* *Animal, Vegetable, Junk: A History of Food, from Sustainable to Suicidal **by Mark Bittman* *How to Cook Everything: Simple Recipes for Great Food **by Mark Bittman* *Jared Diamond* *Land Enclosure* *Books by James C. Scott* *Fast Food Nation: The Dark Side of the All-American Meal **by Eric Schlosser* *Supersize Me* *Books by Will Durant* *Books by Marion Nestle* *Renewable Fuel Standard Program* *Joel Salatin at Polyface Farms* *Full Belly Farm* *The Omnivore’s Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals **by Michael Pollan* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Since its founding in 2003, *Newlight Technologies’* goal has been to create consumer-driven solutions to reducing carbon in the air. And while that intention has not changed, the Newlight team’s approach has evolved as they consider how to achieve the greatest impact. Mark Herrema is the cofounder and CEO of Newlight, an advanced biotechnology company using greenhouse gas to produce sustainable materials and replacements for plastic. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Mark joins Ross and cohost Radkhika Moolgavkar, Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori, to discuss what Newlight has been up to since his last appearance on the podcast, explaining how they brought a new plant online in 2019 and why the team chose foodware and fashion as its first two consumer foci. Mark shares an overview of the AirCarbon production process, addressing where Newlight’s greenhouse gas feedstocks come from and how Newlight uses the blockchain to track the carbon footprint of its products. Listen in to understand how Mark’s thinking around carbon markets has shifted, why it took two years to get Newlight’s methodology approved, and what marketplaces need to change to make the space more attractive to other ambitious entrepreneurs. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori’s book club on Patreon* *Nori’s website* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on YouTube* *Sign up for Nori’s weekly Newsletter, **The Nori Wrap* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Resources* *Newlight Technologies* *Restore Foodware* *Covalent Fashion* *Mark Herrema on **Reversing Climate Change** S1E14* *Newlight’s work with IBM* *Verra* *Newlight’s Methodology for Greenhouse Gas Capture and Utilization in Plastic Materials* *ISO 14067 Carbon Footprint of Products* *ISO 14044 Life Cycle Assessment* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Since the first levee was built in New Orleans in 1717, we have been trying to manage America’s rivers. But now our infrastructure is failing. And if we don’t compromise on a plan to restore (or strategically remove) our dams, levees, and locks and give our waterways more space, flooding events will continue to devastate entire communities over and over again. *Tyler J. Kelley* is a journalist whose work has appeared in *The New York Times*, *The Wall Street Journal,* and *The New Yorker*, among many other national publications. His first book, *Holding Back the River: The Struggle Against Nature on America’s Waterways*, was published in April 2021. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Tyler joins Ross to explain why riverboat traffic is still important to the US economy, moving more than 1,000 semi-trucks’ worth of vital commodities daily. Tyler discusses the extensive work we’ve done to manage rivers in the US, describing how much land would be unlivable without levees and why the risks of flooding will only increase with climate change. Listen in for Tyler’s insight on the Dutch *Delta Works* project to give land back to the rivers and fortify existing infrastructure and learn how we might create a similar comprehensive flood control plan to protect communities here in the US. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori’s book club on Patreon* *Nori’s website* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on YouTube* *Sign up for Nori’s weekly Newsletter, **The Nori Wrap* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Resources* *Holding Back the River: The Struggle Against Nature on America’s Waterways **by Tyler J. Kelley* *Tyler’s Website* *‘The Fight to Tame a Swelling River with Dams That May Be Outmatched by Climate Change’ in **The New York Times* *Elizabeth Kolbert on **Reversing Climate Change** S2EP50* *Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future **by Elizabeth Kolbert* *Levee Wars on Sny Island* *Rebuild Pinhook* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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What would happen if businesses were expected or even required to store a tonne of carbon for every tonne of carbon they produce? A *Carbon Takeback Obligation* is a policy framework that aims to make that the new standard. Today we learn more about how such a system might operate. *Margriet Kuijper* is a former civil engineer for Shell, where she focused on the development of carbon capture and storage projects. Today, she serves as an independent consultant working on a Carbon Takeback Obligation, otherwise known as CTBO. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Margriet joins Ross to share the simple idea behind a Carbon Takeback Obligation and explain how it addresses the common concerns associated with oil and gas carbon capture projects. Margriet discusses how CTBO makes polluters pay to clean up their emissions and describes how CTBO policy could work in tandem with a carbon tax or emissions trading system, incentivizing both emitters and producers to find solutions together. Listen in to understand Margriet’s take on the role of offsets under CTBO and in a net-zero world, and learn how businesses would benefit from the long-term policy certainty of a Carbon Takeback Obligation. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on YouTube* *Join Nori's weekly newsletter, **The Wrap* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Carbon Takeback website* *Carbon Takeback Obligation: A Producer’s Responsibility Scheme on the Way to a Climate Neutral Energy System * *Myles Allen TED Talk* *Clean Air Task Force* *The Paris Agreement* *IPCC* *International Energy Agency* *Eli Mitchell-Larson on **Reversing Climate Change** S2EP62* *Myles Allen* *EU Emissions Trading System* *Europe’s Extended Producer Responsibility Policy* *Making Climate Policy Work **by Danny Cullenward and David G. Victor* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Carbon removal tends not to be the most accessible pursuit for the layperson. One can plant a tree or practice regenerative farming in one's garden plot, but there typically isn't a lot else one can do. At least before Cyan! Cyan is an open-source do-it-yourself modular direct air capture machine for hobbyists you can build in an hour or two and start learning about and practicing carbon removal in your free time. And in this episode, Ross and his guest Dahl Winters build one in real time! (*There is also an identical YouTube video of this podcast that shows the process!*) Dahl Winters is the CTO of DeepScience LTD and a member of the OpenAir Collective working on Cyan and other open-source DAC designs. Much scientific development focuses on patents and proprietary technology as a means of getting to a commercial market, but open-source development has an advantage of being anticompetitive, dynamic, and inclusive in ways that can be unexpectedly powerful. Tune in today to learn the how and why of building Cyan, OpenAir Collective's work on policy as well as technological development, and why open-source movements can accomplish so much if done well. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on YouTube* *Join Nori's weekly newsletter, **The Wrap* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Most importantly, watch the video version of this entire podcast on YouTube!* Dahl Winters on Twitter Dahl Winters on LinkedIn The OpenAir Collective Cyan build instructions on GitHub --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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So, you’re interested in carbon removal and curious about working in the climate space. But you’re not sure how your skills might apply, and you don’t know where to begin learning about the different types of carbon sequestration or the major players in the industry. *John Sanchez* is the Founder and Curriculum Designer at *Carbon Removal Academy* and the Co-Creator of the *AirMiners Boot Up Program* and *Problem Pack Climate Sprint Workgroups**. *He is also building *Carbon Visions*, a community of college students working on carbon removal solutions. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, John joins Ross to explain how these experiences facilitate the exploration process for transitioning into the climate space. John shares his take on what makes a climate community valuable and discusses the debate around ecological versus industrial sequestration. Listen in to understand how John’s love of literature informs his work in carbon removal and learn how his experiences can help YOU uncover your climate affinity and then apply your skills to reversing climate change. *Connect with Ross* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on YouTube* *Join Nori's weekly newsletter, **The Wrap* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *John’s Travels in Carbon Removal Newsletter* *John’s Carbon Visions Slack Community* *Carbon Removal Academy* *AirMiners* *AirMiners Boot Up Program* *Problem Pack Climate Sprints* *Biochar & Sawmills Problem Pack Report* *Work on Climate* *My Climate Journey* *Climatebase* *Evan Hynes of Climatebase on Reversing Climate Change* *Carbon Visions* *CDR Primer* *World Resources Institute’s Post on Regenerative Ag* *The Soil Scientists’ Response Letter to WRI* *Tito Jankowski on YouTube* *Literature & History Podcast* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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*Nori* has evolved a great deal since its founding in 2017, and today, the team is ready to shift from a build-to-learn prototype to a build-to-scale model. The product team is working to reduce friction in the supply experience, while the sales team develops a repeatable, scalable business model. So, what progress have they made in the last year? And where is there still room for growth? *Josh Felser* is an angel investor in Nori and Founder of *Climactic*, a VC fund that invests in visionary founders solving our planet’s greatest challenges. On this bonus episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Josh interviews Nori team members Paul Gambill, Evangeline Marzec, Alexsandra Guerra, Radhika Moolgavkar, and Ross Kenyon for an update on Nori’s progress over the last 12 months, starting with the major trends in the climate space that affect the startup’s carbon removal marketplace. They discuss how the team has grown, sharing Nori’s values-based approach to hiring and explaining how they’ve iterated over the last year to improve product-market fit. Listen in as Paul, Evangeline, Alexsandra, Radhika, and Ross offer insight on building trust with customers as they work to scale and learn about the forthcoming launch of the Nori token and the role it will play in determining the marketplace value of removing carbon from the atmosphere. *Connect with Ross & Alexsandra* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on YouTube* *Nori on Patreon* *Nori Newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Nori White Paper* *Subscribe on iTunes* *Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Open Roles at Nori* *Climactic* *Helium* *Techstars* *Blue Ocean Strategy: How to Create Uncontested Market Space and Make the Competition Irrelevant **by W. Chan Kim and Renee Mauborgne* *Nori’s API Pilot* *Gimlet Media’s StartUp Podcast* *COMET-Farm* *The Nature Conservancy* *Conservation International* *Indigo Ag* *Joro* *Pachama* *Indigo’s Terraton Initiative* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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The narrative of human exceptionalism posits that there is something unique about being human that makes us more valuable. And we believe that what matters most are the things that seem to separate us from animals—like our ability to reason or the immortal human soul. But what if you can’t separate the animal part of us from our spirit? What if being human IS being animal? Melanie Challenger is a writer of environmental history, podcast host of *Enter the Psychosphere**,* and author of the new release, *How to Be Animal: A New History of What It Means to Be Human**. *On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Melanie joins Ross to share her argument against substance dualism, explaining why we can’t separate the idea of being human from that of being animal. Melanie offers insight on how we can ‘become animal’ without reverting to amoral, self-serving behaviors and why she sees the simple, clean messaging around environmental issues as being problematic. Listen in to understand Melanie’s take on the human battle with mortality and learn to accept that life is finite but not fear death. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Subscribe to Nori's newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Listen to our other show, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Melanie Challenger’s website* *Enter the Psychosphere** Podcast* *How to Be Animal: A New History of What It Means to Be Human **by Melanie Challenger* *On Extinction: How We Became Estranged from Nature **by Melanie Challenger* *Paul Kingsnorth on **Reversing Climate Change** S2EP53* *George Monbiot* *Caspar Henderson* *Thomas Aquinas’ Philosophy of Angelology* *The Biological Mind: How Brain, Body and Environment Collaborate to Make Us Who We Are **by Alan Jasanoff* *Sam Harris* *Black Earth: The Holocaust as History and Warning **by Timothy Snyder* *Alan Watts Organization* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Are we out of balance? Some thinkers pose that the scales have tipped toward industry, ego, and individuality, and we’re disconnected from the cycles of nature. We’re all Yang and no Yin. And this imbalance is causing climate change. So, what can we do to restore our sense of interconnectedness among all living things? How can tapping into our spirituality help us heal ourselves and the earth? Dr. Erin Yu-Juin McMorrow is the author of *Grounded: A Fierce, Feminine Guide to Connecting with the Soil and Healing from the Ground Up**.* She is also a founding member of *Kiss the Ground*, a nonprofit dedicated to awakening people to the possibilities of regeneration. On this bonus episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Dr. McMorrow joins guest host and Nori cofounder Alexsandra Guerra to share her mother metaphor for the soil, describing how she sees the Yin as the feminine energy of regeneration and why western society struggles with birth and death—the primary portals of transformation. Dr. McMorrow explores how our desire to DO disregards the spiritual aspect of climate change, discussing the individual and collective healing we must do to activate our soul voice and reconnect with each other and the earth. Listen in to understand the relationship between the empowerment of women and soil health and learn Dr. McMorrow’s simple practices for connecting with spirit and bringing our natural systems back into balance. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on Medium* *Nori on YouTube* *Subscribe to the Nori newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Grounded: A Fierce, Feminine Guide to Connecting with the Soil and Healing from the Ground Up **by Erin Yu-Juin McMorrow, PhD* *Dr. McMorrow’s Website* *Kiss the Ground* *Ryland Engelhart* *Graeme Sait’s 2013 TED Talk* *YogaWorks* *Katharine Wilkinson’s 2018 TED Talk* *Lindsay Mack* *How to Do the Work: Recognize Your Patterns, Heal Your Past, and Create Your Self **by Dr. Nicole LePera* *Soul* *The Eagle and the Condor* *Zach Bush, MD* *HeartMath* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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In order to meet the goals of the Paris Agreement, we can’t just reduce emissions. We have no choice but to add carbon dioxide removal (CDR) to the mix to keep global temperature rise under 2°C. So, what CO2 removal processes are in development? And what are governments and nonprofits doing to advocate for and fund carbon removal? Dr. Jan Mazurek serves as Senior Director at the *ClimateWorks Foundation*, where she leads the *Carbon Dioxide Removal Fund*. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Dr. Mazurek joins Ross to discuss what the Biden administration is doing to make ‘historic strides on climate’ and explain what carbon removal measures are left out of the Biden-Harris climate agenda. Dr. Mazurek explores why it’s politically beneficial to lead with rural resilience and job opportunities as opposed to carbon removal, describing how ClimateWorks grantees partner with unions to garner support for DAC. Listen in for Dr. Mazurek’s insight on the challenges associated with carbon pricing and find out why it’s crucial to engage front line communities in the discussion around carbon removal. *Connect with Ross* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on Medium* *Subscribe to Nori's Newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *ClimateWorks Foundation* *The CDR Program at ClimateWorks* *Noah Deich & Giana Amador on RCC EP017* *Dr. Julio Friedmann on RCC EP016* *Giana Amador’s Blog on the Biden Budget* *American Jobs Plan* *National Academy of Sciences Workshop on Ocean CDR* *SEA FUEL Act* *ClimateWorks’ Video on Ocean Alkalinity Enhancement* *Stripe Climate* *Rhodium Group’s Study on Job Opportunities in DAC* *Energy Futures Initiative* *Carbon180* *Tracy Johns at the Climate and Land Use Alliance* *REDD+* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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