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Reversing Climate Change

Focused on people & organizations coming together to reverse climate change

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Many corporations, organizations, and governments have made net zero commitments, and most are leaning on voluntary carbon offsetting to achieve these climate goals. But how can we be sure that such carbon offsets demonstrate a real change in the atmosphere? And how can we approach offsetting in a way that gives rise to an actual net zero society? Eli Mitchell-Larson is a climate researcher and PhD candidate at the University of Oxford and the corresponding author of *The Oxford Principles for Net Zero Aligned Carbon Offsetting*. He also serves as an advisor to *Carbon Direct* and is helping build a new *carbon removal advocacy organization in Europe*. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Eli joins Ross to walk us through Oxford’s four principles, explaining why the guidelines prioritize decarbonizing first and then negating emissions. Eli describes why he advocates for a shift to carbon removal offsetting and long-lived storage, discussing why he believes nature-based solutions are crucial—but may not be appropriate for carbon markets. Listen in to understand the argument of why companies must support the development of net zero aligned offsetting (and what that might look like) and learn how you can get involved in Eli’s burgeoning advocacy organization that serves as a champion for carbon removal. *Connect with Ross* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on Medium* *Nori on YouTube* *Subscribe to Nori's newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *The Oxford Principles for Net Zero Aligned Carbon Offsetting 2020* *‘Prosets: Making Continued Use of Fossil Fuels Compatible with a Credible Transition to Net Zero’ on Research Square* *Eli Mitchell-Larson on Twitter* *Carbon Direct* *CDR Advocacy Europe* *CDR Advocacy’s Open Executive Director Role* *Carbon Takeback Obligation* *George Monbiot’s 2006 Article on Carbon Offsets* *United Nations Race to Zero Campaign* *Silvia Terra* *The Blue Carbon Initiative* *Carbon180* *Carbon Dioxide Removal Primer* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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There’s a lot of advice on how reduce your carbon footprint. But everything seems to come with a caveat. You can stop eating meat, but do synthetic meats require monoculture? You can boycott Bitcoin, but would that make the grid itself any cleaner? You can drive an electric car, but its battery is made with rare minerals. So, how do you make choices that really move the needle? *Paul Greenberg* is the fisherman and bestselling author behind *Four Fish*, *American Catch*, and *The Omega Principle**. *His latest book is called *The Climate Diet: 50 Simple Ways to Trim Your Carbon Footprint**.* On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Paul joins Ross to explain what we can do to support sustainable fisheries and why we should be ‘picky plant eaters.’ Paul challenges us to be mindful of how many children we add to the planet and shares his argument against building infrastructure that gets us ‘back to normal’ after the pandemic. Listen in for Paul’s insight on electrical versus gas appliances and learn how *The Climate Diet* can help you make conscious choices in a spirit of kindness to the environment. *Connect with Ross* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club and Slack on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Paul’s Website* *Seaspiracy* *What a Fish Knows: The Inner Lives of Our Underwater Cousins **by Jonathan Balcombe* *‘The Wrong Mine for the Wrong Place’ in **The New York Times* *Gidon Eshel* *‘The Plant Prescription’ in **Eating Well* *Goodbye Phone, Hello World: 60 Ways to Disconnect from Tech and Reconnect to Joy **by Paul Greenberg* *How to Break Up with Your Phone **by Catherine Price* *Empty Planet **on Reversing Climate Change EP105* *‘Has the Pandemic Transformed the Office Forever?’ in **The New Yorker* *Carl Safina* *‘We Don’t Need More Life-Crushing Steel and Concrete’ in **The New York Times* *Natural Resource Defense Council* *Farhad Manjoo* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Art has a unique ability to explain complex, oft-emotional topics in an understandable way. And that’s why *Carbon Upcycling Technologies (CUT)* is engaging with visual artists to educate the general public about carbontech. CUT offers their artist-collaborators free materials and tech support, encouraging the use of CO2-derived materials to create pieces that ‘showcase the carbon capture and utilization industry.’ *Madison Savilow* is the Chief of Staff at Carbon Upcycling Technologies and Venture Lead of CUT’s new consumer brand, *Expedition Air**.* On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Madison joins Ross to discuss the technology Carbon Upcycling uses to create solid materials like concrete, plastics, and consumer products out of CO2 and share her take on the tradeoffs associated with working with some of the largest players in the energy sector. Madison explains what inspired CUT to launch Expedition Air, describing how a consumer brand helps educate the general public about carbontech and what other companies in the space are following suit. Listen in for insight into Expedition Air’s collaboration with artists Annalee Levin and Luis Merchan and learn how Madison and her team are using visual art to market carbontech. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori Newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Expedition Air* *Expedition Air on LinkedIn* *Expedition Air Artist Collaborations* *Expedition Air Artist in Residence Program* *Carbon Upcycling* *Annalee Levin on **Reversing Climate Change** S2EP52* *Carbon XPRIZE* *Apoorv Sinha on **Reversing Climate Change** EP078* *Rob Niven on **Reversing Climate Change** S2EP16* *Clean CO2* *Aether Diamonds* *Air Company* *Newlight Technologies on Reversing Climate Change EP014* *Covalent* *Captured Carbon Studio* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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According to the *NOMINATE Index*, the last time the US was this polarized was just before and during the Civil War. So, how did we get here? And what can the philosophy of public reason liberalism teach us about living together—even when we don’t agree on much? *Dr. Kevin Vallier* is an Associate Professor of Philosophy at Bowling Green University and author of *Trust in a Polarized Age* and *Must Politics Be War? Restoring Trust in the Open Society**. *On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Dr. Vallier joins Ross to discuss the doom loop between falling distrust and growing polarization and address how we can learn to disagree in more a productive way. Dr. Vallier explains liberalism in general and public reason liberalism specifically, describing how we might build a shared doctrine that appeals to multiple reasonable perspectives. Listen in for Dr. Vallier’s public reason argument for restricting carbon emissions and learn what we can do to rebuild trust in our institutions and each other. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* Email *podcast@nori.com* Check out our other podcast, *Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Books by Kevin Vallier* *Trust in a Polarized Age **by Kevin Vallier* *Must Politics Be War? Restoring Our Trust in a Polarized Age **by Kevin Vallier* *Nolan McCarty on Google Scholar* *Network Propaganda: Manipulation, Disinformation and Radicalization in American Politics **by Yochal Benkler, Robert Faris and Hal Roberts* *So You’ve Been Publicly Shamed **by Jon Ronson* *John Rawls* *Jerry Gaus* *A Theory of Justice **by John Rawls* *Political Liberalism **by John Rawls* *Public Reason Liberalism* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Empires rise and fall. And while we understand these cycles conceptually, there’s a bizarre notion that we are somehow immune. That we can continue to evolve toward greater ease and material abundance generation after generation. That our potential for growth is somehow unlimited. But natural resources are finite. So, what happens when we run out? Dr. Jason Bradford is the Cofounder of *Farmland LP* and Cohost of *Crazy Town*, a podcast produced by the *Post Carbon Institute* that explores “climate change, overshoot, and runaway capitalism”. He is also the author of *The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification**.* On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Dr. Bradford joins Ross to explain what differentiates ecological economics from other schools of thought and why some resources are simply too valuable to price. Dr. Bradford shares his prediction regarding a great simplification of civilization, describing his vision of a future where we might still enjoy modern conveniences but at a very different scale. Listen in to understand why we he thinks we can’t ‘artificial ecosystem’ our way on to other planets, why industrial carbon capture is a bad idea, and how we might build a lower-complexity society that is sustainable for the long term. *Connect with Ross* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori Newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Crazy Town** podcast* *The Future Is Rural: Food System Adaptations to the Great Simplification **by Jason Bradford* *Farmland LP* *Post Carbon Institute* *Tom Murphy’s Do the Math Blog on Economic Growth* *Enough Is Enough: Building a Sustainable Economy in a World of Finite Resources **by Rob Dietz and Dan O’Neill* *Paul Kingsnorth on Reversing Climate Change S2EP53* *Ted Nordhaus on Reversing Climate Change EP100* *The Breakthrough Institute* *Kim Stanley Robinson on Reversing Climate Change S2EP51* *Novels by Ursula Le Guin* *Bernard Lietaer* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Few of us live at sea, so the ocean doesn’t get as much attention as it deserves in the climate conversation. But Kim McCoy contends that phytoplankton deserve just as much consideration as polar bears, and it’s time for us to understand how rising temperatures impact the water, the wind, the waves, and the weather. After all, we all live downstream of climate change. Kim is the oceanographer who updated Willard Bascom’s *Waves and Beaches: The Powerful Dynamics of Sea and Coast*, adding new insights around the impact of climate change. On this episode of the podcast, Kim joins Ross to discuss the impact of changing the amount of energy in a given system (i.e.: adding energy in the form of heat) and explain the relationship between changes in the atmosphere and changes in the ocean. Kim shares the scientific data around the increase in accumulated cyclone energy fueling Atlantic hurricanes and describes how private property is becoming public due to sea level rise. Listen in for Kim’s take on interventions like iron fertilization and solar radiation management and find out what we can do restore the health of the hydrologic cycle that connects us all! *Connect with Ross* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori on Medium* *Nori on YouTube* *Nori on GitHub* *Nori Newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Nori White Paper* *Subscribe on iTunes* *Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Waves and Beaches: The Powerful Dynamics of Sea and Coast **by Willard Bascom and Kim McCoy* *Books by John Kretschmer* *John Kretschmer on Reversing Climate Change S2EP33* *John Martin’s Iron Hypothesis* *Running Tide* *Brian Von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change EP034* *Brian Von Herzen’s RCC Bonus Episode on the Documentary 2040* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Regenerative agriculture is sometimes branded as a new idea. But the tradition of maintaining soil carbon and honoring the earth, of leaving the land better than we found it, has been part of indigenous traditions for thousands of years. So, what can we do to re-center the stories of Black and Native American growers and give credit where credit is due? Leah Penniman is the Co-Director and Farm Manager at *Soul Fire Farm*, an Afro-Indigenous-centered community farm committed to uprooting racism and seeding sovereignty in the food system. Leah has 20-plus years of experience as a soil steward and food sovereignty activist, and she is the author of *Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation of the Land*. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Leah joins Ross and cohost Rebekah Carlson to explain George Washington Carver’s work pioneered modern regenerative agriculture—two decades prior to J.I. Rodale. Leah describes the work she has done to reclaim a connection with the land (beyond the oppression of slavery and sharecropping) and offers advice on reconnecting with your own indigenous roots. Listen in for Leah’s insight on the shift among Black Americans from rural to urban farming and learn how you can support Soul Fire Farm’s work to promote social and environmental justice. *Connect with Ross & Rebekah* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book on club on Patreon* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori Newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Listen to our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Soul Fire Farm* *Soul Fire on Facebook* *Soul Fire on Instagram* *Soul Fire on Twitter* *Soul Fire on YouTube* *Farming While Black: Soul Fire Farm’s Practical Guide to Liberation of the Land **by Leah Penniman* *‘Why Farming Is an Act of Defiance for People of Color’ in **Healthyish* *Owen Taylor on The Table Underground Podcast EP030* *The Cooking Gene: A Journey Through African American Culinary History in the Old South **by Michael W. Twitty* *The land-healing work of George Washington Carver at **Grist* *Slavery by Another Name: The Re-Enslavement of Black Americans from the Civil War to World War II **by Douglas A. Blackmon* *The Justice for Black Farmers Act* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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The Passover story is one of intense grief and loss as well as redemption and freedom. And while the Jews fled Egypt 3,000 years ago, many aspects of the story seem particularly relevant in a world plagued by extreme climate events and COVID-19. So, how might the events of Passover inform the way we think about climate change? Can we customize our Passover observances in a way that considers our responsibility to solve the climate crisis? *Sarah Tuneberg* is the CEO of *Geospiza*, a software company that helps cities and corporations take action around climate risk, and she spent 2020 leading the State of Colorado’s Coronavirus Innovation Response Team. On this episode of the *Reversing Climate Change *podcast, Sarah returns to explain the Jewish tradition of the Passover Seder and explore how it might be customized around the theme of climate change. Sarah walks us through the Seder meal, describing the inclusive nature of the service and the Jewish tradition of questioning that allows for reinterpretation of the Passover story. Listen in to understand how the idea of tikkun olam requires an active pursuit of social justice and learn how to incorporate climate elements in your Seder celebration this year. *Connect with Ross* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Subscribe to Nori's newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* *Resources* *Sarah on Twitter* *Geospiza* *Sarah Tuneberg on Reversing Climate Change EP094* *New American Haggadah **by Jonathan Safran Foer* *Jonathan Safran Foer on Reversing Climate Change S2EP29* *Jonathan Haidt* *Books by Amy-Jill Levine* *Greta Thunberg* *An Overview of the Story of Passover* *What to Expect at a Passover Seder* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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There is a growing movement among Native Americans to reclaim their spiritual, cultural, and political identities. And restoring indigenous food practices is central to this work. The new documentary *Gather* follows several indigenous leaders as they work toward food sovereignty, demonstrating the hope and healing power of traditional food. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, three of the people featured in the film join Ross to discuss how they got involved in *Gather* and share their work around reclaiming indigenous foodways with the world. First, traditional food forager and educator *Twila Cassadore* explains the importance of food sovereignty in the context of her work with the *Western Apache Diet Project*. Then, Apache & Navajo restauranteur and executive chef Nephi Craig of *Café Gozhóó* describes his journey through classical French cuisine back to Native food, exploring the power of indigenous food practices in healing chemical dependency and generational grief. Finally, Yurok fisherman and *Ancestral Guard* founder Samuel Gensaw III offers insight on the Fish Wars of the 1970s and his ongoing fight to protect future generations through indigenous food. Listen in to understand why he believes indigenous values are key in sustaining life on earth and learn what you can do to support Twila, Nephi, and Sammy’s work. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Nori's newsletter* Email *podcast@nori.com* Listen to our other podcast, *Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Gather** Documentary* *San Carlos Apache Tribe* *Western Apache Diet Project* *Tribal Food Sovereignty Advancement Initiative* *Twila Cassadore at the Quivir Coalition* *Café Gozhóó* *White Mountain Apache Tribe* *Sunrise Park Resort* *Nephi Craig on Instagram* *Nephi Craig on Facebook* *Native American Culinary Association* *Victorious Gardens Initiative* *Ancestral Guard on Instagram* *FishboneTradeCo* *Guardians of the River on YouTube* *The Fish Wars* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Extreme weather can cause desperate situations. So, what can survival experts teach us about navigating wildfires, hurricanes, flooding, and severe winter storms? Can we prepare for these natural events without turning into full-fledged preppers or giving into the assumption of doom? How do we adapt to a changing climate? *Les Stroud* is a filmmaker, musician, and author best known for *Survivorman*, the pioneering documentary series that launched Survival Television as a genre. He is also the author of the new children’s book *Wild Outside: Around the World with Survivorman* and the creator of the forthcoming PBS special *Surviving Disasters with Les Stroud**. *On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Les joins Ross to share his mission around connecting people with nature and using film as an outlet to teach bushcraft and primitive earth skills. Les explains how his work is ‘changing into the future’ to help people adapt to climate change, stressing the general skills of resilience and ingenuity, and reminding us that the truth of survival is in community. Listen in to understand how *Wild Outside *encourages kids to have adventures in their own backyard (be it the back forty or an urban park) and learn how to prepare for natural events so that they don’t turn into disasters. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Join Nori's book club on Patreon* *Nori's website* *Nori on Facebook* *Nori on Twitter* *Resources* *Survivorman Les Stroud on YouTube* *Les Stroud’s Website* *Wild Outside: Around the World with Survivorman **by Les Stroud* *Survive! Essential Skills and Tactics to Get You Out of Anywhere—Alive **by Les Stroud with Michael Vlessides* *Les Stroud’s Wild Harvest* *Surviving Disasters with Les Stroud* *The 10 Bushcraft Books **by Richard Graves* *Primitive Technology on YouTube* *Max Brooks* *Survivor Man on **The Office* *Ray Mears* *Bush Tucker Man* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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