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Reversing Climate Change

Focused on people & organizations coming together to reverse climate change

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The Green Revolution in the second half of the 20th century was seen as an important solution to the problem of malnutrition in the developing world at the time. And while it may have succeeded in staving off hunger, the industrialization of agriculture created a whole new set of problems, chief among them a lack of diversity in our food system. Why does this matter? What is the food monoculture costing us? And what can we do to bring back some of the diverse foodways we’ve lost along the way? Dan Saladino is the renowned food journalist behind BBC Radio 4’s *The Food Programme* and author of *Eating to Extinction: The World’s Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them*. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Dan joins Ross to explain why we so desperately need biodiversity in our food system, exploring why diverse foods may taste better, and could be better for us. Dan walks us through several examples of rare foods discussed in his book and offers insight on the people working to revive old foodways. Listen in to understand how the war in Ukraine is causing a food crisis and learn what we can do to create a system that is more resilient, more robust, and healthier—both for people and the planet. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Eating to Extinction: The World’s Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them **by Dan Saladino* *The Food Programme* *Slow Food International* *Ark of Taste* *Royal Botanic Gardens in Kew Research* *Stichelton Dairy* *The Dark Matter of Nutrition* *Vavilov Institute* *UN World Food Programme* *Consider the Axe: Food, Farming and the Wonders of Stonehenge on The Food Programme* *Heritage Seed Library* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Many of the artists and creators who mint nonfungible tokens (NFTs) are concerned about the environmental impact of the blockchain. But what if they could pair carbon removal with any given NFT to make it carbon-negative? Alexander Salnikov is Cofounder and Chief Strategy Officer at *Rarible*: a multichain, community-centric NFT marketplace. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Alexander joins Ross and cohost Alexsandra Guerra, Nori’s Director of Corporate Development, to discuss the partnership between Nori and Rarible, describing how it affords Rarible users the opportunity to address their carbon footprint. Alexander explains how NFTs function as an effective way to store assets on the blockchain, exploring the many different use cases for NFTs, and how having access to a community is attracting new users to the space. Listen in for Alexander’s insight around the future of NFTs and learn how blockchain technology might be used to make all our systems more transparent, faster, and more efficient. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Rarible* *Rarible’s Partnership with Nori* *Bored Ape Yacht Club* *CryptoKitties* *Aspen Ideas Climate Conference* *Ready Player One* *Retina Ghost: creator of the Nori Proof-of-Attendance NFTs from the Miami event* *Nori Token Pre-Launch Carnival Recap* *Jesse Smith on **Reversing Climate Change** S3EP12* *Ross’s Nori Logo Graveyard NFT* *Digital Gold: Bitcoin and the Inside Story of the Misfits and Millionaires Trying to Reinvent Money** by Nathaniel Popper* *Doodles* *NFT.NYC* *Art Basel* *Imogen Heap on **Reversing Climate Change** S2EP72* *Aragon Court* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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Mónica Guzmán has some difficult conversations with her parents. She’s a liberal Democrat, while her mom and dad voted enthusiastically for Trump both times. So, how does she bridge the political divide and maintain a loving relationship with her parents, despite their differences of opinion? And what can you and I do to develop intellectual curiosity and see difficult issues from different points of view? Mónica is the Digital Director at *Braver Angels* , the nation’s largest nonprofit working to depolarize America. She is also the author of the new book, *I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times**.* On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Mónica joins Ross to discuss how she navigates the relationship with her conservative Republican parents, describing why it’s important to maintain connections with friends and family who don’t see things the way you do. Mónica explains how condescension and curiosity are mutually exclusive, challenging us to begin conversations by believing that the other person’s perspective is valid and asking questions around how they came to their beliefs. Listen in to understand how the more facets of an issue you see, the closer you are to the truth, and learn how to be open to influence or new information that might change your opinion. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided Times **by Monica Guzman* *Braver Angels* *Monica on Braver Angels* *Monica’s Website* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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*A long-term study of climate and conflict* determined that in places with large populations and a history of political exclusion of ethnic groups, nearly one-third of the wars initiated in the last 40 years were preceded by a climate disaster. So, what is the connection between climate emergencies and armed conflict? Why do climate disasters escalate political disputes? And what can we do about it? *Scott Carney* is an investigative journalist, anthropologist, and *New York Times* bestselling author. Dr. Jason Miklian serves as a senior researcher at the *Center for Development and the Environment at the University of Oslo*. Together they are the authors of *The Vortex: A True Story of History’s Deadliest Storm, an Unspeakable War, and Liberation**.* On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Scott and Jason join Ross to discuss the geopolitical landscape of South Asia after World War II and explain how the 1970 Bhola Cyclone led to the genocide of 3 million people and triggered the Indo-Pakistani War. Scott and Jason describe how the conflict between West Pakistan, East Pakistan (later, Bangladesh) and India played out geopolitically with the Cold War between the US and the Soviet Union and offer insight into President Nixon and Pakistani President Yahya Khan’s roles in furthering the Sino-Soviet split. Listen in to understand why climate disasters serve as catalysts for war, what lessons we can learn from the fight for Bangladesh, and what we can do to prevent armed conflict in the wake of climate emergencies moving forward. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *The Vortex: A True Story of History’s Deadliest Storm, an Unspeakable War, and Liberation** by Scott Carney and Jason Miklian* *Scott Carney* *Scott Carney on YouTube* *Center for Development and the Environment at the University of Oslo* *What Doesn’t Kill Us: How Freezing Water, Extreme Altitude, and Environmental Conditioning Will Renew Our Lost Evolutionary Strength** by Scott Carney* *Train to Pakistan** by Khushwant Singh* *George Kennan and Containment* *The Sino-Soviet Split* *‘Fortress India: Why Is Delhi Building a Berline Wall to Keep Out Its Bangladeshi Neighbors?’ in **Foreign Policy* *The Ministry for the Future **by Kim Stanley Robinson* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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What is the gap between what farmers know now and what they need to know to farm more regeneratively? How do we close that gap? What is the best way to advocate for the adoption of regenerative agriculture practices? Jesse Smith is the Director of Land Stewardship at *White Buffalo Land Trust*, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit dedicated to practicing, promoting and perfecting the principles and practices of regenerative ag. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Jesse joins Ross to explain how WBLT furthers regenerative ag through the development of products, training programs, and scientific research. Jesse shares WBLT’s focus on teaching the integration of annual and perennial cropping with animal systems and offers advice on attracting young engineers, scientists, and creative artists to the regenerative ag space. He goes on to discuss the benefit of ecosystem service payments, describing what he views as the unfair advantage producers have in regions with a higher potential for carbon sequestration and what markets like Nori can do about it. Listen in for Jesse’s insight on using distributed ledger technology and blockchain to support regenerative ag and learn how you can support White Buffalo Land Trust and its consumer-facing brand, *Figure Ate Foods*. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *White Buffalo Land Trust* *WBLT on Instagram* *WBLT Training Programs* *Figure Ate Foods* *Roots of the Future II Event* *Savory Institute* *Kiss the Ground* *The Biggest Little Farm* *Leah Penniman on Reversing Climate Change S2EP57* *Books by Bill Mollison* *Rudolf Steiner* *Center for Regenerative Agriculture at Jalama Canyon Ranch* *California’s Healthy Soils Program* *The NRCS EQIP Program* *The NRCS Conservation Stewardship Program* *USDA Local Food Promotion Program* *Regen Network* *How a Warming Climate Is Changing Wine on Reversing Climate Change S3EP10* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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What inspires a farmer to monetize soil carbon? For those already implementing regenerative practices and collecting the associated data, selling carbon credits provides an additional income stream, rewarding farmers for sequestering carbon in the soil, and potentially encourages new adopters to join. And that's on top of the money they’re already saving through practices like no-till planting and cover cropping. Cory Willis is a farmer at Nori supplier *Willis Farms*, a multigenerational, family owned and operated farm in Southern Middle Tennessee. In its 70-year history, Willis Farms has grown to nearly 4,000 acres of productive cropland and pasture, and Cory’s family uses regenerative methods on every acre under their care. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Cory joins Ross and Nori Supply Account Manger Sean Foster to discuss the history of farming in the Willis family, describing when they started using regenerative agriculture and how the practices benefit their operation. Cory shares his experience working with Sean and the rest of the Nori team, explaining what inspired his interest in monetizing soil carbon, and why partnering with us was the right decision for Willis Farms. How does Nori’s cryptocurrency token affect how he views the risk of participation in Nori? Listen in for Cory’s advice to farmers considering regenerative ag and find out what Willis Farms is doing with the extra income from selling carbon credits on the Nori marketplace. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Willis Farms* *Willis Farms’ Profile at Nori* *Common John Brewing Co.* *Natural Resources Conservation Service* *Granular* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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The Rhône Valley of France is famous for its Syrah, Grenache, and Viognier grapes (among others), while Merlot, Cabernet Sauvignon, and Cab Franc (et al!) are grown in Bordeaux. And these wine grapes have thrived in their respective regions for centuries. But what happens when rising temperatures change the kinds of grapes that can be grown in a particular area? How is the climate crisis changing the way wine is produced? And what can we do as consumers to promote sustainability among winemakers? *Paul Wagner* is a Viticulture and Winery Technology Instructor at Napa Valley College and Cohost of *Bottle Talk with Rick and Paul*. He also serves as guest lecturer at multiple universities in Europe and the US and offers several wine-related courses as part of *The Great Courses* lecture series. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Paul joins Ross to explain what attracts him to the artistry and experience of winemaking, exploring what makes wine grapes sweeter than any other fruit and how they give you a sense of both place and time. Paul describes how climate is changing the way wine is made everywhere in the world, discussing what winemakers are doing to avoid rising temperatures and how the climate crisis might influence the evolution of wine in places like Bordeaux and Rhone. Listen in for insight on how climate informs the alcohol content in wine and get Paul’s advice for the environmentally conscious on choosing a wine you like—and then finding a winemaker who’s working toward carbon neutrality. (Wine is discussed for its own sake for the first twenty or so minutes. If you want to skip right to the intersection with climate, it begins at 24:32.) *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Bottle Talk with Rick & Paul* *Bottle Talk on CapRadio* *Paul Wagner Wine* *Paul on The Great Courses* *Robert Mondavi* *Napa Valley College Viticulture & Winery Technology Department* *Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat: Mastering the Elements of Good Cooking **by Samin Nosrat* *Decanter World Wine Awards* *Familia Torres: Wine & Climate Change* *Wine Folly: The Essential Guide to Wine **by Madeline Puckette and Justin Hammack* *Hugh Johnson* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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*Carbon Removal Newsroom*, the sister podcast to *Reversing Climate Change*, was born out of a desire to explore current events in the carbon removal space from a policy perspective. But since the show debuted in early 2019, its production team has evolved and so has our approach to discussing the latest in climate news. Radhika Moolgavkar is Head of Supply and Methodology at Nori and Host of *Carbon Removal Newsroom*, and Asa Kamer serves as Producer of *CRN*. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Radhika and Asa join Ross to explain how *CRN* evolved to focus on the business, policy, and science of carbon removal news and share their favorite episodes from the recent past. Radhika and Asa explore how podcasting facilitates thoughtful public conversations around meaningful issues and describe how a show benefits when its host approaches the subject matter with a beginner’s mind. Listen in to understand how *CRN* stays up on big news in the industry and get Radhika and Asa’s take on the future of carbon removal. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Air Miners* *Carbon180* *The Carbon Removal Show* *Political Climate* *The Energy Gang* *Holly Jean Buck* *Chris Barnard at the American Conservation Coalition* *Susan Su* *Jane Zelikova* *The Boom in Carbon Removal Legislation and Funding on CRN EP045* *Noah McQueen of Heirloom on CRN S3EP28* *OpenAir’s Toby Bryce on CRN S3EP29* *Chan-Zuckerburg Initiative Invests $44M in Carbon Removal on CRN S3EP30* *Ocean-Based Carbon Removal on CRN S3EP32* *Ton-Year Accounting with Carbon Direct on CRN S3EP31* *Eight DAC Companies to Watch in 2022 on CRN S3EP27* *Forest Carbon Over-Crediting on CRN S3EP21* *Climate Reparations on CRN S3EP26* *Carbon Removal Memes on Instagram* *Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on Facebook* *Carbon Removal Memes for Climate Restorative Teens on Twitter* *OpenAir Collective* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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*Use discount code NORI for 20% off your online order at *https://www.barnaclefoods.com/*. Note: this is not sponsored content. We just dig Barnacle Foods!* Kelp could be an extraordinary tool for long-term carbon sequestration. It also happens to be delicious. And that’s why Matt Kern is on a mission to promote kelp farming in his home state of Alaska and replace some of the more carbon-intensive foods in our diet with seaweed. Matt Kern is the Cofounder of *Barnacle Foods*, a food manufacturing business based in Juneau that uses Alaskan kelp as its principal ingredient. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Matt joins Ross to discuss how his team sources kelp in a sustainable way and describe what differentiates foraged food from farmed. Matt explores why seaweed is not more popular in the US and explains what Barnacle Foods is doing to introduce consumers to the savory, rich flavors of bull kelp. Listen in to understand what makes kelp a fast, efficient tool for carbon sequestration and find out where you can go to try Barnacle Foods’ hot sauce, seasonings, pickles, and other provisions. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Barnacle Foods* [Discount Code NORI] *Barnacle Foods Store Locator* *Brian Von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change EP034* *Brian Von Herzen on Reversing Climate Change S2 Bonus* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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We have talked at length on previous episodes about the flaws in compliance markets. And the team at Nori obviously believes in voluntary carbon markets, as we’re building one ourselves. But there’s a wide range of quality among voluntary markets, and the space is 1,000 times smaller than the compliance programs in progress around the world. So, have cap-and-trade markets contributed to a meaningful reduction in emissions in spite of their flaws? And are compliance markets the only way to address carbon emissions at scale? Michael Azlen is the Founder and CEO of *Cabon Cap Management LLP* and Co-Portfolio Manager of the *World Carbon Fund*. On this episode of *Reversing Climate Change*, Michael joins Ross and guest cohost Aldyen Donnelly to explain how he got interested in carbon as an asset class and share his take on the benefits of compliance markets. Aldyen offers insight on the two compliance market models, describing the problems associated with programs modeled after the SO2 Allowance Market—and why she prefers the framework of the Montreal Protocol. Listen in to understand how Michael thinks about regulating voluntary carbon markets and why he is optimistic about the global growth in compliance markets despite their imperfections. *Connect with Nori* *Purchase Nori Carbon Removals* *Nori's website* *Nori on Twitter* *Check out our other podcast, **Carbon Removal Newsroom* *Resources* *Carbon Cap Management* *Climate-Crypto, COP26, and Carbon Accounting Rules on Reversing Climate Change S3EP1* *Michael’s Paper on Carbon as an Emerging Asset Class* *World Carbon Fund* *The US Acid Rain SO2 Allowance Market* *The Montreal Protocol* *EU Emissions Trading System* *Fit for 55* *Kyoto Protocol* *Clean Air Interstate Rule* *Cross-State Air Pollution Rule* *The Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative* *California’s Cap-and-Trade Program* *California Scoping Plan Documents* *UK Emissions Trading Scheme* --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/message Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/reversingclimatechange/support

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